Curse

Silverblad3 · Jun 25, 2008, 09:09 AM // 09:09

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Originally Posted by Daenara

I find attitudes like this so frustrating! I'm a mum, with a 4 year old son, a husband, I grow my own veges, I am studying a bachelor degree at home, I have an active and busy "life" if that's what you believe in your narrow viewpoint of the word. Instead of judging people who you don't know, how about you go expand your "active social life" and meet people in different situations then yourself.

Well said, some of us have a busy and hectic social life, farming serves a purpose to buy dyes, elite armours, items for HoM and chase titles (however pointless folks think). People set goals, if they want to fulfil them that is fine, go fulfil your own.

Daenara, nice avatar where did you get it done? Like mine?

Silver

Holly Herro · Jun 25, 2008, 10:47 AM // 10:47

I find this run pretty fun actually [=

Ctb · Jun 25, 2008, 12:16 PM // 12:16

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I find attitudes like this so frustrating! I'm a mum, with a 4 year old son, a husband, I grow my own veges, I am studying a bachelor degree at home, I have an active and busy "life" if that's what you believe in your narrow viewpoint of the word. Instead of judging people who you don't know, how about you go expand your "active social life" and meet people in different situations then yourself.

How much time do you spend playing the video game? There are numerous people here who have admitted to spending weeks at a time playing, on average, 8 hours a day or more. Assuming you're telling the truth about all those things (no offense, but it's the intarweb and anybody can be anything they want - you're just as likely a 10 year old kid as what you say you are in your post), I find it hard to believe you would have the time to also grind 8-10 hours a day like some of the people here do/have done.

Spending an hour here and there farming or doing a few farming runs that are constantly broken up by a screaming pre-kindergartener isn't exactly what this thread is about, it's about the lunatics who spend hours and hours every day, for months on end doing it.

If you're spending multiple hours every day in front of a video game, especially just doing the same repetetive thing over and over, you have no life and I will not back down from that assertion. Hell, I've played for an average of less than 1.2 hours a day (including AFK time) in the last three years and I think even I wasted way too much time on my rear end. There are people on this board who have played more than twelve times what I have.

Silverblad3 · Jun 25, 2008, 01:09 PM // 13:09

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Originally Posted by Ctb

How much time do you spend playing the video game? There are numerous people here who have admitted to spending weeks at a time playing, on average, 8 hours a day or more. Assuming you're telling the truth about all those things (no offense, but it's the intarweb and anybody can be anything they want - you're just as likely a 10 year old kid as what you say you are in your post), I find it hard to believe you would have the time to also grind 8-10 hours a day like some of the people here do/have done.

If you're spending multiple hours every day in front of a video game, especially just doing the same repetetive thing over and over, you have no life and I will not back down from that assertion. Hell, I've played for an average of less than 1.2 hours a day (including AFK time) in the last three years and I think even I wasted way too much time on my rear end. There are people on this board who have played more than twelve times what I have.

Your making assumptions that lots of people do this, without looking at it from their perspective, what they want to spend their free time on, relaxing, time with family, or do is up to them, saying they are 'Sad' is actually being ignorant to what makes us human, we all like different things, we do different things and people are different, it does not make them 'sad'. What makes it sad is people who think they know what people should spend their time doing or not doing.

By the way, no one is saying what you do when you do not play 'video games' is sad, it could be for all we know, but it is not appropriate to make that kind of assumption and yes it is your opinion, rather limited one at that (and that is my opinion).

I think it is sad people saying that other people are sad when you do not know them

Have fun whatever you do

Silver

eeks · Jun 25, 2008, 01:51 PM // 13:51

Goodness. Level-headed people on a SF thread! I'm sensing Armageddon around the corner.

Anyhow, my boyfriend's been sick the past couple of weeks, so it hasn't been the usual routine of going to his place for a couple of days halfway through the week. Many of my friends are busy when I'm not - or they just come over and visit.

That being said, most of my friends being extra-busy with uni (I only take one non-uni course) before the holidays, and my boyfriends' absence leaves me with quite a bit of spare time. So... Why not spend it farming? Besides, I play the game normally too. I was bored of the game when I was busier.

I can see why it's addictive for people who enjoy farming, though. The run to Chaos Planes slightly breaks the tedium, and it's profitable enough for them to keep going at it.

R.Shayne · Jun 25, 2008, 01:56 PM // 13:56

I like farming just for the fun of seeing what drops. As for farming the UW for ectoplasm I just can’t do it, there is no thrill of the drop. I would say farming for crafting material just seems boring, but if other like it that sounds great. I sell a lot of crafting material and it all comes from farming for weapons and crafting material is just extra bonus. As for ectoplasm, rather farm other places that drop inscribable weapons (need mods) and take the gold to buy the ectoplasm.

As for the permasin being boring, no more boring than any other build that I have used in Guild Wars. Once you use a build so much it just seems mechanical in my reactions, I am pressing keys before I even realize it. I was using the A/Me permasin before the buff to farm raptors / vermin and had used it so much it no longer took any effort to maintain permanent shadow form. I have used the 600 to farm CoF so much that I actually noticed that I am encounter ever group at the same location when I farm there.

Shandril · Jun 25, 2008, 03:20 PM // 15:20

I love threads like this. There are always two sides to every coin. IT might be a two headed coin but there are still two sides. Now onto my statement. I am Married with 3 Kids, and have time to spend with them, my wife alone, and clean a 4000 square foot house. I also play on average 2-3 hours a night depending on what shows are on TV. I have a wonderful life, and I balance it out. Onto the second statement. I farm all the time, I also venture, and do Quests with 10 chars. I like Gold, Armor, Good weapons etc for all my chars and heroes. I also farm for Guild members, and am very active in helping them gain Gold. I also Trade Rare Materials at good rates. My overall point is who the heck are you people to Judge what one does. Who cares if you think farming is sad or not. 9 times out of 10 the reason you get a good deal on a weapon or an upgrade is due to a person farming. They are usually willing to sell (example) a +30 Sword Fort for 4k instead of 6k. I bought 3 IDS's from a farmer for 7k a pop last week. I know I'm evil becasue I sold them from 12 to 15K a pop. The point of the game is (there is none) Do what you want to do and accept what others are doing. One way or another it helps everyone out.

N1ghtstalker · Jun 25, 2008, 03:21 PM // 15:21

it's quite sad to see GW slide of to a grinding based game
it's making me crazy really

cheeze123 · Jun 25, 2008, 03:36 PM // 15:36

I'm not complaining at all because I finally bought a set of fow armor after a few days of farming. It only took 3 years, but at least I can say I did it thanks for perma-sin lol. If you don't like "grinding" then don't do it. One thing that makes GW so good is that you don't need to... The guy with all the max titles and xxecto is likely just as good as some other guy without all that stuff. Some people just like shiny things and they work for it. It's not a big deal, really.

Ctb · Jun 25, 2008, 07:22 PM // 19:22

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Originally Posted by Silverblad3

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That's a giant psychological cop-out. Our society values individuals who are strong, intelligent, well-rounded, worldly, outgoing and familial because those are the types of people that have successfully contributed to the furtherance of our society.

None of those traits will develop by anything by sheer luck in an individual who spends excessive amounts of time gaming. You won't be playing sports or exercising, you won't be reading literature or reviewing art, you won't be engaging in social and political discourse, you won't be developing your ability to interact with society at large, and you certainly won't be exposing yourself in any meaningful way to multiple cultures and their heritages.

You'll grow up to be pasty, white, weak, meek, and single dimensional if all you do is play video games, just like when there people who only sat in their room reading comic books or taking apart computers or cars.

If your greatest contribution to society is your build to rapidly solo UW, society at large doesn't value you and I'd say that justifies my "sad" label. Maybe you're living in a society where excessive video gaming is valued, but I can't think of any such place. South Korea, even, only really tolerates it.

Opinions are opinions, but that doesn't mean they're unassailable. It may be your opinion that sitting in front of a video game for ten hours a day isn't a waste of time, but, aside from the minority hardcore gaming group, you're not going to find anybody who shares that opinion.

And, since it's a subjective matter, I'd say majority rules in this case: excessive video gaming is, indeed, "sad".

Golgotha · Jun 25, 2008, 07:27 PM // 19:27

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Originally Posted by Ctb

That's a giant psychological cop-out. Our society values individuals who are strong, intelligent, well-rounded, worldly, outgoing and familial because those are the types of people that have successfully contributed to the furtherance of our society.

None of those traits will develop by anything by sheer luck in an individual who spends excessive amounts of time gaming. You won't be playing sports or exercising, you won't be reading literature or reviewing art, you won't be engaging in social and political discourse, you won't be developing your ability to interact with society at large, and you certainly won't be exposing yourself in any meaningful way to multiple cultures and their heritages.

You'll grow up to be pasty, white, weak, meek, and single dimensional if all you do is play video games, just like when there people who only sat in their room reading comic books or taking apart computers or cars.

If your greatest contribution to society is your build to rapidly solo UW, society at large doesn't value you and I'd say that justifies my "sad" label. Maybe you're living in a society where excessive video gaming is valued, but I can't think of any such place. South Korea, even, only really tolerates it.

Opinions are opinions, but that doesn't mean they're unassailable. It may be your opinion that sitting in front of a video game for ten hours a day isn't a waste of time, but, aside from the minority hardcore gaming group, you're not going to find anybody who shares that opinion.

And, since it's a subjective matter, I'd say majority rules in this case: excessive video gaming is, indeed, "sad".

Okay, mom.

12chars.

romeus petrus · Jun 25, 2008, 07:28 PM // 19:28

Some people farm, some people grind for titles, some people grind for fame...Do what you enjoy the most, it is a game.

Chrono Re delle Ere · Jun 25, 2008, 07:31 PM // 19:31

Certain people have fun doing that, you know...luckily I am not one of them :P

I farmed 30 ectoes in about one week with that build and then i got deadly bored. Not worth it imoh.

eeks · Jun 25, 2008, 07:37 PM // 19:37

@Ctb: Stereotypes like your own are valid opinions now?

Selket · Jun 25, 2008, 07:40 PM // 19:40

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Originally Posted by Ctb

That's a giant psychological cop-out. Our society values individuals who are strong, intelligent, well-rounded, worldly, outgoing and familial because those are the types of people that have successfully contributed to the furtherance of our society.

None of those traits will develop by anything by sheer luck in an individual who spends excessive amounts of time gaming. You won't be playing sports or exercising, you won't be reading literature or reviewing art, you won't be engaging in social and political discourse, you won't be developing your ability to interact with society at large, and you certainly won't be exposing yourself in any meaningful way to multiple cultures and their heritages.

You'll grow up to be pasty, white, weak, meek, and single dimensional if all you do is play video games, just like when there people who only sat in their room reading comic books or taking apart computers or cars.

If your greatest contribution to society is your build to rapidly solo UW, society at large doesn't value you and I'd say that justifies my "sad" label. Maybe you're living in a society where excessive video gaming is valued, but I can't think of any such place. South Korea, even, only really tolerates it.

Opinions are opinions, but that doesn't mean they're unassailable. It may be your opinion that sitting in front of a video game for ten hours a day isn't a waste of time, but, aside from the minority hardcore gaming group, you're not going to find anybody who shares that opinion.

And, since it's a subjective matter, I'd say majority rules in this case: excessive video gaming is, indeed, "sad".

Pretty sure everything in life can be argued as a waste of time 'cause you're just going to die anyway.

Damian979 · Jun 25, 2008, 07:53 PM // 19:53

Yippee another "why do people do what they want to do" thread

101 things to do in this game, if one of them is boring for you, don't do it.

Nude Nira · Jun 25, 2008, 07:59 PM // 19:59

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Originally Posted by Selket

Pretty sure everything in life can be argued as a waste of time 'cause you're just going to die anyway.

Was our relationship a waste of time Selket? Apparently, you threw it away and handed it to Alessandra, I hurt so much Selket, so, so much. I need you.

And...who cares if people grind/farm?

dread pirate fargus · Jun 25, 2008, 08:02 PM // 20:02

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Originally Posted by My first account

Old news.

Different players have different goals. Some of those goals require lots of money and some players are always looking for the easiest ways to get that $$.

Make your choice about how to play your game and let everyone else have theirs in peace. No need for anyone to explain/defend their way of playing.

QFT.

really.

quite borking true.

i have been trying to tell people for months to stop moaning about grind in guild wars. 100% of the grind is optional grind. you can get everything you NEEd to complete the game just by completing the game. anything you have to grind for is for vanity purposes eg shiny armour and weapons, or shiny titles.

Riceboi · Jun 25, 2008, 08:27 PM // 20:27

Yes the A/e uw farm is boring as hell, that's why I do it maybe 1 time every couple days if that. I can barely stand it anymore.

Zamochit · Jun 25, 2008, 08:35 PM // 20:35

Mesmers are evil

Killing 38 mesmers all at once is fun.

As far as farming goes this run is one of the most satisfying and profitable in the game, sure after the 1000th time its going to be dull, but so is everything. It involes so little attention you can still maintain conversations quite easily whilst carrying out this run, and a lot of us mainly log in to chat now anyway, two birds one stone n all that

It is also evening out the cost of ecto vs shards, which should have happened a long time ago tbh in the same way as saphs and rubys // diamonds and onyx.